The Collateral Damage of Plunder:
The United States Economy and The wealth of the global community
- perspectives from conscientious human beings
"As the world’s powers struggle to save their own financial systems,
they must not
overlook assisting countries that did not cause this
crisis but are its victims."
October 20, 2008 7:40 am
'Collateral Damage' from friendly fire, I suppose !
And misery loves company.
Not
only are we paying now for "years of excess," carelessness and
escapades, we are taking the world with us. The world that used to fear
our might now has reasons to fear our mighty economy.
We will survive -- perhaps-- but what parts of the world can we help survive while we are trying to keep our head above water ?
— beethy, CA
October 20, 2008 7:31 am
I hope I see more article on how much global change
is hurting the poor in other countries and what has been helpful.
Certainly we need to separate successful programs from experimental
efforts like wind up laptops. But we cannot be ignorant to the impact
Wall Streets excesses on the poor in other countries, and our own. In
our own county jobs have been exported leaving being a landscape of
hopelessness. In other countries children have been forced into hard
labor. These are the programs that should be cut. Programs that have
insured that poor people everywhere get medicine, food and education
benefit us all.
— swp, Poughkeepsie
October 20, 2008 7:31 am
There is an aspect here ironic, As worldwide bailouts become chronic, With backdoor control Of Finance, on the whole, A Left turn, sans acts histrionic?
— Larry Eisenberg, New York City
October 20, 2008 6:56 am
This latest crisis exposes the fundamental flaw in the private banking - "financial industry" (an oxymoron if ever there was).
As
each of these sovereign economies including our own is interdependent
on public -- i.e. tax monies, how is this any less than taxation
without representation all the way around? I seem to recall some folks
taking great offense to such paradigms.
— freedata, Long Island NY
October 20, 2008 6:56 am
New York Times' Editorial is very timely on a subject
that needs immediate attention of those who are working very hard to
put the derailed global banking and financial systems back on track.
Their
immediate priority appears to be the repair of the chocked credit
pipeline for the smooth flow of personal and institutional credits in
United States, Europe and rest of the world. The systems and
institutional structures are almost in place and if everything goes as
smooth as anticipated then the speedy recovery can be confidently hoped.
However,
the editorial has pointed out an important area which has been left at
the mercy of IMF flush with cash --- $200 billion plus an additional
$50 billion in standing credit arrangements with donor countries --- to
mobilize if needed.
IMF, as usual, is using arm twisting
techniques to provide even the much required financial breather to
the financially starving under-developed and extremely fragile
countries. Unfortunately, the apparent arm twisting measures of IMF
will put unbearable burden on those people of the developing countries
who are struggling hard to keep their body and soul together. On top of
that the totally disappointing state of governance in these countries
is further adding to and complicating the seriousness of the miseries
of the people.
The problem is that even if the countries like
Pakistan are given the finances that are needed to just meet the
immediate debt payment needs then nothing is left to spend on public
welfare and social uplift schemes.
The way out is to cut the
unnecessary expenses on the luxuries of the ruling elite and their
cronies who are the real cause of the problem. First of all they do not
have the requisite far-sight and the capability to come up with
strategies to explore the unexplored local natural and human resource
potential for coming out of the mess their countries are in. Secondly,
whatever aid these countries get from institutions like IMF / ADB and
World Bank is mostly misappropriated and squandered on creating
institutional structures and placing incompetent non-professionals on
important positions as in return for political affiliations and favors.
Thirdly, these incompetent and non-professional heads of the
institutions are least bothered about the adverse political and
diplomatic fallout of their incompetence.
It is just like moving a criminal from the prison to the presidency.
In
a situation like this even if the financial gurus of United States and
Europe succeed in bailing out their local, regional and global banks
and financial institutions, their failure to properly address the
problems in the countries which are of geo-strategic importance to them
both economically and militarily will definitely have an adverse effect
on their overall performance in the not distant a future.
It is
suggested that a mechanism should be put in place for the appointment
of thorough professionals in the institutions of public interest.
— Zahid Hussain Khalid, Islamabad
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
A sneeky choice of words: "they must also be prepared
to PROVIDE billions to poorer countries that did not cause this crisis
but are nevertheless its victims."
"Provide" can mean "lend to", or it can mean "give to."
If lending is what everyone has in mind, wasn't lending to risky borrowers how we got into this mess in the first place?
— TN, Friendswood, Texas
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
Pakistan has suffered a lot in war on terror, which
has crippled the economy and businesses. The ordinary people are
suffering and government is struggling to find a solution.
Now
with world financial crisis Pakistan need at least 10 billion dollar to
pay for import within next 30 days. The Friends of Pakistan should
react immediately for a rescue package, as Pakistan is a non NATO ally.
— Chaudhary, Islamabad
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
The global economy resembles little more than a giant pyramid scheme that has crashed.
— AER, Cambridge, England
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
The collateral damage among 'victim' countires is
going to be extreme and we are grateful to see this opinion piece as
more attention will have to be given to the great masses of humanity
who will suffer not from a loss of investments or business
opportunities but rather from a loss of access to life's basic
necessities.
The export of food aid should be a priority over
'Unregulated' economic aid ... for the expenditure of a billion a month
in food aid as opposed to 10 billion a month in war expenditures will
do far more to heal international relations and bring about peace than
any other venture abroad.
This is not welfare for poor nations .. it is an investment in global security at home and abroad.
— Barrie O. Ward, Weldon Saskatchewan Canada
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
Coming out of WW II, the US was threatened with a
comparable economic crisis. The military contracts that had lifted us
out of the Depression were gone and our logical trading partner,
Europe, was prostrate and unable to buy the goods we desperately needed
to sell and it needed to buy.
The solution: the Marshall Plan.
We gave Europe the equivalent of hundreds of billions of dollars to buy
US machines, tools, foodstuffs, and other items. With US technical
assistance, Europe bought and used these items, rebuilding its own
economy while giving US factories the capital needed to stay in
business and establishing a secure future market for US goods as the
European economy recovered.
The US should now revive its economy
and repair its shattered image abroad by offering Marshall Plans to
underdeveloped nations in Africa and South and Central America as well
as possibly the Middle East. The focus should be on green industries
and sustainable development.
— Bill, Terrace, BC
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
Could the awareness that we are so interconnected financially lead to peace?
I
just try to live a simple life in this confusing financial mess. I
remember that Jesus taught his disciples the Lord's Prayer which only
asks "give us this day our daily bread."
— ShowMe, Missouri
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
The big meaning behind our present crisis is
precisely that we now live in an "interconnected world" as never
before. Moral: and we cannot unconnect it. The old motto was "One
Nation under God." Can we now complete this sentence: "One World
under...?
— Howard E. Cook, Athens, TN
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
The rich world has just pumped enough money into the
banks they failed to regulate to feed and clothe and house the entire
third world for a decade or more.
Am I the only one who sees how shameful that is?
— monty41, Australia
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
You failed to report that Africa overall is still
expected to have 6% growth over the next two years......remember, this
is a first world crisis - the USA has been plundered so badly that it
is now a developed country with an emerging market economic problem.
Lots
of countries are not sharing the pain because they didn't follow the
deregulation that the US has - Canada come to mind - they haven't had
to bail anybody out!
Report on that, please, stop thinking the USA is still the center of the economic world - that horse left the station in 2007.
— Rico, Alaska
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
Where did all the wealth go?
What will it take
for Pakistan (or one of the former Soviet republics) under the
circumstances to part with critical nuclear technology or even a bomb
itself, if a certain wealthy individual from Saudi Arabia or one of his
cohorts came calling?
Can it now be said that socialism is not
the only economic system that distributes misery? That the suffering
engendered and foisted on the unsuspecting dreamers of the American
Dream by the agents of unbridled capitalism -- the only kind there is,
really -- is at least as vexing as the variety attributed to socialism?
How
does a man owning 7 homes (and counting) and 14 cars claim with a
straight face that he is serving a cause greater than himself --
whatever that could possibly mean? Do some of us live in a parallel
world out there where the concepts of "excess", "the unconscionable",
"'honor" etc. either do not exist or mean the opposite of what they
stand for in the world most of us live?
— rmgrmg, CT
October 20, 2008 6:55 am
Your recommendations are good examples of
distribution of wealth. The question I have is, where will the money
come from? We already have 10 trillion dollars of national debt. Are
you recommending that we add more to national debt and print more money
to save the world?
— Krishna, USA
October 20, 2008 6:48 am
Once upon a time, there was a financial crisis set off in the United States and heard 'round the world.
The
bombmakers were Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson, the Community
Reinvestment Act, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank--Democrats all, but the
high and mighty New York Times, forever loath to look at Democrats'
mischief, instead pointed fingers elsewhere. But within six months, all
would be well...thanks to the Bush administration working in concert
with governments around the world.
But would The New York Times
ever admit it had gotten it wrong. No, because by that time The New
York Times had moved on to hammer away at the McCain/Palin
administration, following President John and Vice President Palin
landslided "The One" on Election Day 2008.
And all was right with the world....
— Warren Gabreski, Chicago
October 20, 2008 6:48 am
There have been several reports about Iceland--how
its rich bankers ignored numerous warning signs and pursued the same
greedy practices as Euro and American bankers. It makes no sense at all
to say USA taxpayers owe Iceland a penny. In the [financial] heyday,
chic boutiques and luxury cars flooded the country. I should work to
pay for their greed/corruption . . . why? Same re: other countries.
Greed and corruption is/was not limited to our shores or W.Europe. This
article is another NYT boost for socialism. Corruption in places where
our hard earned dollars are sent (without our consent) is well-known to
be endemic. If they failed to employ prudent measures, that's not our
problem. Just as Congress larded the bailout with pork [e.g., wooden
arrow makers] every greedy corrupt hand around the world will looking
for a windfall, now that the $$$$$ has started to flow.
— sunny, usa
October 20, 2008 6:48 am
I am not an economist and I'm not embarrassed to say
so - economists don't know anything anyway. Whether the small nations
suffer along with the big ones is probably not debatable - of course
they do. The irony here is that they will ultimately be great
beneficiaries of the Wall Street collapse, since Europe - having opened
its eyes - will now slowly start to move away from depending on U.S.
trade and finance. This means Latin America, India, Russia, and China
will benefit, along with myriads of smaller nations. That meeting that
Sarkozy has in mind? Keep your eyes on it.
— Jaime Herrera, El Paso, Texas
October 20, 2008 6:48 am
So basically these countries have become so dependent
on our largess that when we are having problems we should divert the
precious resources needed to recover our economy to prop up their
various corrupt or socialist systems. Seriously?
If you don't save the host first, nothing will save the parasites that feed of it.
— Tom, Florida
October 20, 2008 6:48 am
I keep reading and remembering. The financial crisis
is being run by the same bunch that ran Katrina. "Yer doin' a great job
there, Hanky!" There were plenty of warnings, resolutely ignored by the
"free marketeers" in the White House who believed in the "ownership
society".
The international approach I see is an every country
for itself approach. We'll be treated the way we've treated everyone
else. I see less money for other countries because more money will be
needed at home all over the world.
Let's see, the last two eight
year GOP presidents have both presided over major financial meltdowns
at the end of their second terms. Prior to that the previous two term
GOP was Nixon who didn't finish his second term.
Why would
anyone vote for a GOP for prez? The treasury has already been looted to
the walls forever by the Bush/Cheney gang who acted like Rove's
permanent majority was already a done deal and no one would ever be any
the wiser.
— Rick Taft, Woodbury, MN
October 20, 2008 6:48 am
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. (Chinese Proverb)
Perhaps
its time to take a step back and accept that throwing money at problems
hasn't worked out all that well - the greedy have gotten even more
greedier and the needy even more needier.
Charities all over
this country and the world are already seeing a downturn in
contributions - food banks have already seen high rates here. Most of
us, myself included, have gotten too used to eating breakfast, lunch
and dinner out - we need to return to basics - we need to become more
self-sufficient. Yes, that means go going back doing what our parents
did - lunch in baggies and dinner from our own kitchens. Charities also
need to be more efficient - no more grand hollywood-type fundraising
nights out that eat away at the profits which means less goes to
charity and more to the caterer and bands.
It is starting to
become clear that the lifestyle too many of us had become accustomed to
was not sustainable. Now reality is setting in.
And misery loves company.
Not only are we paying now for "years of excess," carelessness and escapades, we are taking the world with us. The world that used to fear our might now has reasons to fear our mighty economy.
We will survive -- perhaps-- but what parts of the world can we help survive while we are trying to keep our head above water ?
— beethy, CA